The Wonder Years

Interview: The Wonder Years Dan “Soupy” Campbell – “Pop-punk is not going to die easily”

Earlier this year Philadelphia’s The Wonder Years released one of pop-punks most anticipated albums, ‘Suburbia I’ve Given You All And Now I’m Nothing’. Inspired in part by Allen Ginsberg’s 1956 poem “America,” The Wonder Years ‘Suburbia I’ve Given You All And Now I’m Nothing’ is an introspective, heartfelt, and honest journey that tells the story of a growing culture of people in America trying to find their place in the world without compromising the beliefs that make them who they are. With intelligent lyrics accompanied by the catchy, raw, and driving pop punk that fans identify with The Wonder Years, ‘Suburbia’ is both a cultural manifesto and a great summer album that will serve as the anthem for anyone questioning where home really is.

On their first UK headline tour in support of the album I had the opportunity to sit down with vocalist Dan “Soupy” Campbell to talk about the album, touring, religion and to find out why people think pop-punk is dead.

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Local Man Ruins Everything

Very early days but how has the opening of the tour been?

Yeah it is still early as this is day three of the tour but it has been going great so far, very positive. We’ve heard people talk about how this is the bad week to tour as kids have gone back to university or they are getting ready to go back blah blah blah but I’ve seen great turnouts.

Most of the shows, if not all of them by now, have sold out. I was told that Leeds sold out for one and I think tonight is close to selling out.

Yeah Leeds did sell out and I think that tonight might. All of the “big markets” look like they are going to sell out except maybe Liverpool. London sold out and then we bumped up the venue to three times the size to cover the demand down there. So yeah it looks good, Leeds sold out, tonight is close to being sold out, Manchester and Birmingham also.

Is touring starting to feel like the title of this tour “A Whole Year In Airports”? I know it is a lyric from one of the first songs off the new album but I can’t think which one now.

Very first track.

‘Came Out Swinging’.

That’s the one [laughs]. When we were thinking about doing this tour we were just constantly hearing “you have got to come back out to the UK, you have to come back” and we were like “we know, we’re not stupid, we want to come back” but it was just finding the time to do it. So this year we just decided to go non-stop with something like 235 days on tour, which is what like 8 months?

Yeah I think that works out around 7/8 months, hold on I forgot to carry the one.

[Laughs]. We started the year off by driving from Philadelphia to Los Angeles and that was about a 48 to 50 hour drive. So we drove to Los Angeles, played one show and then went straight into the studio to record the album. We didn’t stop all night, we recorded throughout the night and then the next morning we jumped on a plane to come over here to play the Kerrang tour. After that tour we flew home and drove across the country again to go straight into a tour with Man Overboard. We then had around two weeks off to write before touring with Fireworks. Then we went to Australia for a tour, flew back and did the Warped tour. Finished the Warped tour, did two shows back home in the Midwest before flying from Chicago to London for this tour and then after this we fly home and do the New Found Glory tour.

You guys really need a break.

[Laughs]. I know, it just doesn’t stop and that’s why it feels like a whole year in airports.

Do you still enjoy touring if this is the sort of scale you’re doing it to the now?

I still enjoy touring; if I didn’t then we would have stopped. We’ve been talking, as a band, about this for a long time that if we stopped loving what we do then we will just stop it. There’s no sense in continuing to do something if one or a few of us are not dedicated. It’s not like we need to do this for the money as we all have college degrees with the option to do something else with our lives and as soon as we’re unhappy doing this, we will go and be happy doing something else. Right now I just love playing music and I love touring so there is no fear of myself and I don’t think anyone else wanting to stop.

Just need to find that balance of time on the road to getting a little time off.

Yeah it is so nice to be able to go home and lie in my own bed, see my girlfriend, have a shower and all those amenities that touring does not offer you. I just can’t think of having any other job right now because when you get up on that stage and perform, it is so worth it.

You mentioned the Kerrang tour and the date here was down the road at the Academy.

Yeah it was the Academy.

Can you remember a lot about that tour and how it was for you considering it was a good packaged tour to be on?

Those were really good shows for us. At first it was funny because we would walk up to these kids who were all wide eyed just like “where the fuck are Benji [Madden] and Joel [Madden] (Good Charlotte)” but by the end of our set they would all be bouncing around, waving and clapping. Mission accomplished for us, we could tick that one off.

You opened that tour didn’t you?

Yeah we opened up every night and we just tried to set it off with a bang and the reviews really confirmed that.

I know you have done your soundcheck already so from going to the Academy to here, do you sort of wish you were selling enough tickets to go back there after seeing that size of venue?

No, we like to do a slow build. The last time we played a headliner here in Glasgow no-one came. Tonight we’re looking at a sell out so it’s really cool to see that build up and see how we are progressing in a different market from ours back home. Someday we’ll be at the Academy headlining but we have a long way to go until we get there so we’ll keep building and grinding until we’re there.

The Wonder Years Suburbia I’ve Given You All And Now I’m Nothing ArtworkTalking of markets, your new album came out in June and the response in the US was great with you breaking into the Billboard 100. How well did it go down here as I never saw any UK information to see if it got to the charts but I know the reception has been great from reviews?

This is super weird and I don’t really understand it. We did a soft release when the record came out [in the UK] so there was no press, no interviews and nothing at all to push the record so it was really just a big secret that it came out. Now we’re doing a hard release with interviews and press and touring in support of it. They didn’t want us to do a hard release on the record without a tour but we couldn’t do that because we were in Australia and doing the Warped Tour so now we’re doing everything with the record. Now we’ll be able to see it in-stores and if kids are picking it up.

So with the soft release you never touched stores with it?

No I don’t think so but I believe it is now. It has always been available through Banquet Records who have been incredible to us so if anyone asks about our record over here, we just tell them it’s available with Banquet. So now we are finally out here and we can see kids singing along and everything is working the way it should be.

It must be pretty hard tough on this tour if every day you are doing press and trying to make up for lost time.

So far I have done press on the opening two dates and we have things booked in every other day of the tour and of course I’m here with you now. I do believe someone is waiting for me after this also but I like to make sure people are aware of our presence. You are taking the time out of your own day to come here for us so I’ll make sure that I take time out of whatever I’m doing for you. You have worked and thought of questions to ask me so I’m more than happy to answer them as you raise awareness about the band and we can only return that by also giving your website exposure.

Well that all depends on your answers, if they don’t meet the grade then I’ll need to decide what I do next [laughs].

[Laughs]. I suppose that is true. I’m focussed now.

The release of the album was quite a quick a follow up to ‘The Upsides’ which I suppose is seen as your breakthrough album but was the quick release in order to take advantage of being on everyone’s lips or you were just ready to move on?

People keep saying that to me and I don’t think it is. In my head you release an album every year or at least a year and a half.

You’re “old school” on the release process then as the trend now is to release an album, tour from anywhere from two to three years then take a good bit of time to write, record and release.

We’re not interested in resting on our laurels or playing the same songs on the road for years and years, that’s what will make us lose the passion to do this. There was a long gap between our first and second full-length because when we wrote our first full-length album we weren’t a band and it wasn’t until people started to like us we thought “oh we better start writing good songs now as these songs are fucking abysmal.” We started with a series of EPs so while we didn’t release a full-length album in 2008 or 2009, we did have one release in 2008 and two in 2009.

I suppose if you felt that way then it was pretty pointless in trying to write an album with better songs in case it didn’t work.

Yeah we had to work on some things so those releases helped us to move forward.

Do you play anything from the first album if those songs are as you say, “fucking abysmal”?

We play one song just as a nod to the people who have been supporting and following us from the beginning but we know they are not good songs, we know. People out there do like some of the songs but like I said, if I started to hate doing this then I’d stop and I hate playing those songs, I hate it! People come up and ask “will you play that song?” and I just have to say no. If you want to get mad about it and stop coming then get mad about it and stop coming but I’m not going to get up on stage and do something I hate. If I had the choice of going up on stage and performing songs I hated or dressing up in a suit and going to a job I hate then I’d go to the job, it’s the same thing and it’s much easier.

With this album you decided to do something a little original with the timeline idea and each song marks a significant stage over the last year but what made you want to go with this idea instead of 13 singles basically?

Yeah a lot of bands have that 13 singles process but it doesn’t make an album, it makes 13 singles. An album to me has to be cohesive in one form or another and the timeline just made sense as it fitted with what I wanted to talk about. I think it gives the album this nice year long feeling so at times you will have people feeling like it is a summer record and others feeling like it is a fall record. The record, lyrically, has songs written at all of those times so I think it has all of those vibes.

The story behind a lot of the songs does follow on from a lot of the lyrical content on ‘The Upsides’ so was it just natural to move on and complete or extend those stories that you started to tell?

I feel it would have been dishonest not to as we were telling stories about our lives and ‘The Upsides’ was a massive chunk out of our lives. If we had just skipped over the chapter then it would felt like we were living a lie and nothing on this album would be meaningful.

You also referenced the poem ‘America’ by Allen Ginsberg quite often.

Yeah parts of it just tied together.

Was it a case of what you were writing about seemed to tie in with the poem so you adapted the lyrics or did you go in to the writing process with it already in mind and planning to build from it?

Yeah it just seemed to vibe together in a lot of ways but at times it can be the complete opposite in different ways. Ideologically sometimes we converged and sometimes we separated from the ideas. Where it did converge I thought there were remarkable points that had to be included in the writing.

I wanted to ask you about a few of the songs on the album and the first is ‘My Life As A Pigeon’. I saw the track by track you did for this album and you talked about how at a time you felt like people made the band feel unwanted and how it seemed like you were a joke to everyone and at times yourself. How are you feeling now about everything to do with this band, are you in a much better place now or do you still live off some of that previous fear?

Dan "Soupy" CampbellNo because now we have the greatest team in the world. Our manager Craig is incredible and we love our agent Dave and over here we have a guy called Shaun. We just love the people we work with. Now we also love the bands we tour with but back then we had to, more or less, beg for someone to take us on tour with them and most of the time the answer was no. We were looked at as a joke band because we used to be a joke band and I can’t fault anyone for that as I wouldn’t want to take out a joke band. I don’t want to be associated with the bullshit trend hoping bands of today. Once we developed out of being a joke band, no-one would listen to us because they still thought of The Wonder Years as a band who wrote song about fruit punch and shit but that’s not what we were doing once we developed. We have had to overcome obstacles, maybe more than the average band because of who we were to begin with. We had to completely change people’s perception of who we were and what we were actually doing with our music.

Did signing with Hopeless Records make you feel like you had shed that perception of a joke band as now you were moving up the leagues to a bigger label?

I loved working with No Sleep [Records] too. When we signed to Hopeless Records it wasn’t like we were ditching a shitty label and moving to a bigger one, it was just the next logical step for us. As far as achieving goals for us, it has always been about playing with this band and playing at this venue, never about who puts out our records as I could put out my own record. The dream for me has always been about who we are playing with and to.

You’re no stranger to the DIY side of things as you handled all of the booking in the early days for your US tours and things.

Yeah I handled all of the booking for our tours in the US and I used to book them all over here too. I have even booked tours for other bands over here as I could make it happen.

Least if things ever turn sour, more than they already have with the industry and labels, then you have the experience to at least keep the band on the road making money.

Exactly and it’s something that every band should learn how to do as even when you have a manager and tour managers and all that, being able to take control yourself at times makes everything so much easier.

Another song I wanted to ask you about is ‘I Won’t Say The Lord’s Prayer’, which is by far the most talked about song on this album.

Oh yeah people are talking about that a lot.

Did you worry how fans would react to it after you wrote that song and decided that it would go on the album?

We did a little bit because we knew there would be people who will see it as an attack and stop listening but then I came to realise if that’s how you are going to feel about it and you’re going to stop listening to us because we’re ideologically different, then I don’t want you listening in the first place. I’m not interested in fans like that. I have zero problems with your faith, none whatsoever and the song doesn’t say fuck you for believing, the song says do whatever you want but make sure you have thought about it first because I don’t think a lot of you did. Again, the song is set in our home town, the record is set in our home town and I’m disgusted with the people in my home town; I’m not disgusted with the world. This shit happens were people just jumped straight into a full belief system without researching it.

People are just so venerable that if you tell them what they want to hear or if they believe it implies to them then they will just simply believe.

Exactly but that can be fine. You can be told a tonne of things which you filter through your own life, your own experiences, your own morality and beliefs but you need to still need to look at more than the words which are being said and that’s what the song is about. I knew people were going to knock it so I did an extensive interview with Alternative Press to make it clear and I’ve spoken about it another few times in interviews as clear as I could but people read it and still turn round and go “you’re a dickhead! You’re an asshole because you’re against what I believe in so fuck off.” Don’t listen to the song then and don’t buy our records, I don’t need your money and I don’t want it. I do this because I love it and if I’m going to have to stand in front of people who are against me because of a song they refuse to understand then I just won’t play. If people are too stubborn to take the time to understand that I’m not taking a shot at them then I don’t see why I should keep trying to defend myself and win them over.

Do you have set beliefs or are you open and see things from different religions which speak to you?

I would say that I am agnostic leading towards atheism. I think being 100% atheist is like people who try to claim to be 100% Christian, there is no final straw of proof either way to make you chose one or the other. If you’re going to bet on anything you want the best odds and in my life, I’d find it more towards the atheist side. I’m not agnostic down the middle, I’m not saying that I know it all, no-one can know it all, I’m just saying I don’t know entirely but if you made me chose one then I would say that I am an atheist. It’s like red or black, which one is it going to be. I don’t mean to jump from this interview but for people who still feel like I’m against them, I hope they read what I have said here and especially my full interview just on this song over at Alternative Press. I just want people to open their eyes a little more and if they decide to believe in something then I hope they are doing so with enough knowledge about it.

I’ll make sure to link that because at the end of the day the last thing you want is for people to feel isolated and you just need them to take a bit more time to read your words. (InterviewAltPress Interview with Dan “Soupy” Campbell)

Thank you, I would appreciate that even though it is not your not interview.

We’ll move away from that topic now.

[Laughs].

You brought Dan and Alan in from Four Year Strong to record on ‘Summers In PA’.

We did.

How did that come around that you worked with them or did you always have it in mind to bring them on a track?

We actually recorded their part here in the UK on our tour bus during the Kerrang tour. We had a microphone that plugged into Dan’s laptop and we didn’t have a pop filter but we had a pair of pantyhose that a girl had thrown at them so we used that. Just stretched them out and sung through that [laughs].

[Laughs]. Who says you need fancy recording material.

[Laughs]. The song is a kind of friendship song and as we had spent so much time with them over the years it felt right to have them sing on it. In 2010 and into the beginning of this year we have done three tours with that band in five or six different countries so with that much time spent with someone, you do want to have them come sing on your record.

Don’t Let Me Cave In

The main topic I wanted to talk to you about comes off the upcoming title of the New Found Glory tour which is “Pop-Punk’s Not Dead.”

I think that is just a play on words really as it seems more of a fun thing to say that pop-punk is dead.

Well a lot of people do have it in their head that this genre is dead and has been dead for some time now.

Well the people who are purists and say that pop-punk lived and died with The Descendents, or something to that effect, don’t really like what we do and I don’t expect them to as we’re not The Descendents but like everything else we are an evolution and we carry some of the same ethics and same beliefs. There are a lot of bands out there right now doing it and doing it the right way that I can get behind them and have some faith in them. If there is a reason why pop-punk is not dead then it comes down to the community that we have built.

Why do you think there seems to be such a level of unwarranted anger and abuse directed to pop-punk when other genres seem to skip on past?

I really don’t know. I can’t be inside their head though I do wish at times I could be so I could understand it all. I think the key hatred comes down to pop music as people seem to have more of a direct hatred at pop but it is just a lot more consumable. It’s a lot easier to listen to so I can’t see why you would hate it but I can see you being ambivalent towards it. Hating it does seem really odd to me but you’re right, the anger and abuse is completely uncalled for and it starts to become more of an attack on the fans rather than the bands.

The good thing about the fans is that are still as dedicated after the abuse to still move forward and try promote this genre.

Yeah and there are fans who are like “I live and die for pop-punk” and I’m like cool, whatever you want [laughs]. People can like it or hate it, either way we are always going to do what we do and so are other bands. As long as there is still enough demand for it then we will keep moving on.

I’ve seen this quote used over and over online and I want to know if you can explain it to me: “Pop-punk died with MySpace”. I don’t know if one kid has said it then everyone just copied and pasted it or what but I have seen it a lot so did MySpace help pop-punk on some level that I appear to have missed?

I don’t think pop-punk and MySpace have that sort of kindred connection. The biggest pop-punk bands as far as record sales are Green Day and Blink-182 and they were not MySpace bands so I don’t know why people seem to have this MySpace idea.

Yeah Green Day started up in the late eighties and Blink-182 in the early nineties, well before anything like this took off. I don’t even think I had started primary school yet when those two were already together.

It’s strange to think it was that long ago as the music still lives on as strong today as it did back then.

They really did take the genre mainstream worldwide with their style.

They did and we have to be thankful for the path they laid for bands like us.

When you consider the mainstream success they had throughout the nineties which brought on new bands who helped carry the torch, I always find it difficult to understand why people seem to think that Fall Out Boy were a damaging figure throughout the last ten years as Fall Out Boy really did keep the genre mainstream and had great success doing so. I don’t know if they ever reached arena tours like Blink, as I wasn’t a fan myself so I never followed them, but it is hard to avoid the impact and success they had within the genre and what they did to continue it on a mainstream level.

It’s weird as I never knew how big Fall Out Boy were because I’ve seen Blink play in an arena but I’ve never seen Fall Out Boy play a show of that size. The biggest Fall Out Boy show I saw was a 2500 cap room but I’m sure they played those arenas. I think the problem with Fall Out Boy was that they were putting out records too quickly.

I think they managed five albums in six years, with two of those coming in the same year.

I know I want to release an album in the space of a year to a year and a half but they didn’t exactly leave much space in the middle to really do a lot of work. I don’t think they had what Blink had in terms of the longevity and personality. Blink just had this aura about them like these guys were meant to be famous. The Fall Out Boy guys that I’ve met have always been really shy and their drummer [Andy Hurley], I remember meeting him one night and he probably doesn’t remember at all but he was at this Comeback Kid show and he was super nice but never at any point did he mention that he was in Fall Out Boy. I know that is unnecessary but we were talking about music and he just said “my band”, so I asked him what band he was in and he said Fall Out Boy. He didn’t want to bring it up that he was in this very popular band, he just wanted to be himself, go see Comeback Kid play and just have a normal night with normal people. He never seemed to be noticed, he just seemed to an everyday regular guy. Blink on the other hand, those guys have such big personalities that they would always stand out and be the highlight of any room they were in, you can’t help but notice and make them the centre of attention but Fall Out Boy never had that appeal to them which made them as famous as they possibly could have been. Well they were famous but they were never ever going to be Blink famous no matter how hard they tried. They probably have done similar size rooms and record sales but I have zero research to back this up so I’m just basing it off the people and who they were and Fall Out Boy didn’t have that edge.

While Green Day and Blink are still the most well-known and will always have the public eye, there haven’t been any new bands breaking into the mainstream in the last few years. New Found Glory did hit the UK big when they first came out and while they are still a huge band over here, they seem to have lost a lot of the momentum they once had. I suppose Paramore have been the band of recent years but it seems that it is one band every few years who seem to strike a major chord.

Yeah I would agree with that over here [in the UK]. All Time Low are certainly very big but Paramore are huge, they are very big. I suppose My Chemical Romance are still one of those big ones.

You know I completely let them slip my mind. They just headlined a festival here also.

Just goes to show what can be done if you stick to what you’re good at. Paramore I’d still say is the biggest one right now, they are really doing it. Most bands have hit a level now that they can’t surpass but if it is a level where you are invited to play big festival and you still get TV and radio air time then just keep with it but Paramore keep on going.

Do you think it is going to be tough for bands like yourself and even someone like Four Year Strong who have a bigger reputation to break into the mainstream now because it does seem to be a limited club who make it in there? New Found Glory seem to be the band to come back to here as they are still a massive band here but when you look at their career, ‘Sticks And Stones’ hit the top 10 in the album charts back in 2002 and they have slowly fell down the charts with each release that came after so their mainstream appeal has slowly been lost.

Dan "Soupy" CampbellYeah New Found Glory had a couple of big singles and things have really smoothed out for them now and we just need to wait and see if Four Year Strong can do it next because they are on the rise so it could be their time to become that new band who break into that club.

What do you think of the criticism that is coming Four Year Strong’s way right now based off their new material as they appear to be moving away from pop-punk becoming more of a rock ‘n’ roll band?

At some point you want to stop making that same record again and again. They want to try something new and branch out and the songs are good. They are my good friends and I think they should do what they want to do but right now it does work. If fans want to stop listening then that is their right but they will just make new fans to replace the old ones. So far the songs are extremely strong and I’m hearing people say that its “butt rock”, its “radio rock” but it sounds like the Foo Fighters to me and I like the Foo Fighters.

That is the comparison everyone is making right now that they are becoming a new Foo Fighters.

Well I love the Foo Fighters so if that’s what they want to sound like then I’m in.

It’s not a bad comparison to have because you look at the size of that band, I mean they sold out Wembley Stadium and that was between 70,000 and 80,000 people.

If Four Year Strong end up selling out Wembley Stadium one day then it couldn’t have happened to better people or better musicians as those guys can fucking play.

Could you ever see yourself evolving to try something a little different or to completely change your style?

I don’t know if we could ever…

I think the general view, from those who have a positive word about the new Four Year Strong material, is that they are not only moving to something new but they are simply evolving with their listener.

I think that we will certainly mature but Dan and Alan have such strong voices, such rock voices and I don’t have that. I could see us doing something a little more like Jimmy Eat World in the future but the direction wouldn’t ultimately change. We will always keep it rooted in to what The Wonder Years have always been about so any fan who reads this shouldn’t think that we’re changing and have a breakdown.

Bands in this genre mainly use a little hardcore element on vocals but never so much in the sound that it takes away from pop-punk but do you think that might be the best way to keep pop-punk ticking on by adding elements from other genres to freshen the sound, maybe working with hardcore a little more because it really works well with the energy that pop-punk brings to a live show?

I’ve never really thought about it that way as we just do what we do but if it helps bands further their careers and opens up something new which helps to attract more fans to this genre then how can you see that as a bad thing. We’ve never had the intention of doing something a certain way. What comes out of us when we are writing is just natural and if we go in one direction or another it is because we know it feels right and it helps the song.

Do you think that will eventually become necessary for bands in order to further their careers because again back to the topic of people picking away at pop-punk, they feel too many bands follow a set song structure and that originality is being lost?

I don’t think it will be necessary for careers to continue but if you want to stand out amongst then you have to do something. Blink, Paramore, Green Day and Four Year Strong all have their own elements which make them stand out amongst the pack of bands and you see that it works because look where they are right now.

I suppose you could fault the internet for too many people believing there are so many bands doing the same thing when it allows so many shit bands to be heard and all the new bands are just carbon copies of someone who has already built a following.

I don’t know if that is just the internet’s fault because there have always been shit bands [laughs]. Now they have a better way of putting their music out there and I suppose that could take away some of the elements which does make this genre what it is.

Coming back to the song ‘My Life As A Pigeon’, the story behind that song does reflect the feelings of people as we talked about so how do you see this genre going forward and surviving for years to come when people make it feel unwanted?

I think the genre is actually doing bigger things than it has done in years. People were really excited about the glossy pop-punk for a while with bands like All Time Low and Boys Like Girls and those sort of bands who are all great people and have been very kind to us but we just do something different. People are really excited about what we’re doing right now and I think that because of the strength of the community between bands like us, Man Overboard, Fireworks, Transit, Title Fight and all these bands, we are all tied together. We are all here to support each other, to be friends with each other, to go on tour with each other, to plug each other and because of the strength of that community, we’re doing things that haven’t been done by a genre this far removed from pop music in a long time. There are huge metal bands because metal has always been a big thing and there are pop bands and punk bands who felt the need to push themselves towards pop music because that is what would attain fans. We have always said that this is the music we like playing, we don’t have to make it sound like anything else, as long as we support each other then the strength within the community is going to continue to grow and take it forward. It’s kind of like Captain Planet with our powers combined etc etc. We don’t need to adhere ourselves to what someone else is doing, we just need to make sure that the people doing this keep doing it. We don’t all sound the same, I consider La Dispute, Defeater, The Wonder Years, Man Overboard, Valencia and all these bands who sound different to be part of the same scene. We all have the same ethics so if we are all able to bond together, play the music we love to play and keep our ethics the same then we will all be an unstoppable force in this genre, the community and scene. This was a decision that was made subconsciously by everyone at the same time and we’ve worked hard to keep together and make something for ourselves and with labels like Run For Cover and No Sleep, Pure Noise and Topshelf then we’ll be able to do that. Pop-punk is not going to die easily.

     

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